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Pat Writes" "I am struggling with the title"

tsukany
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Post  tsukany Thu Feb 25, 2021 1:05 pm

Role Modeling
 
(Apologies to Quraysh Ali Lansana)
 
i want my sons to know men who
tear up at sad movies
 
i want my sons to know men who
say “no” as well as “yes”
 
i want my sons to know men who
smile and stroke dogs
 
i want my sons to know men who
respect boundaries
 
i want my sons to know men who
admit, “I don’t know”
 
i want my sons to know men who
ask for forgiveness
 
i want my sons to know men who
think and feel
 
i want my sons to know men who
listen to old storytellers
 
i want my sons to know men who
recognize needs and offer help
 
i want my sons to know men who
show kindness to mothers
 
i want my sons to know men who
know God has the better plan
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Post  Admin Thu Feb 25, 2021 1:14 pm

Pat

I take the poem to be a statement that suggests that Quraysh Ali Lansana does NOT hold these values; thus, he is disqualified as a "Role Model."

Did I track correctly?

Todd
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Pat Writes"  "I am struggling with the title" Empty I think I did not give you enough information.

Post  Pat Thu Feb 25, 2021 4:18 pm

And apology may be the wrong word. I think we are good on the technology.
Now, I have to go hang myself!
No worry. Traction for neck....  affraid

Later, I will try to find his poem.  I like his poem, just not as showy as I want...and I remember not understanding his title at the beginning...??? maybe.  I really liked his format.

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Pat Writes"  "I am struggling with the title" Empty I think you are dead-on with "Apologies to whomever", but

Post  Pat Sat Feb 27, 2021 9:38 am

I think now that I was 'inspired' by this poet's poem.  I'm changing it to Inspired by....

I have not yet found the poem that inspired me. Still looking.

Now to go back to your poem....
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Post  Pat Sun Feb 28, 2021 2:09 pm

Here's the poem I liked and modeled after.  


Under my poem, can I say: After Quraysh Ali Lansasa  ????


I think of modeling and bonding as different.


I loved his i at the beginning of lines, the couplets, the examples. I am aware my first line is the same as his. I struggled with another way of saying  : i want my sons to know.  Any ideas....? 


Male Bonding
Quraysh Ali Lansana - 1964-
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i want my sons to know
men who smile
i want my sons to know men
who own their imperfections
i want my sons to know
men who listen
i want my sons to know
men who hear hearts, see words
i want my sons to know men
who honor women
i want my sons to know
men who appreciate the arts
i want my sons to know
men who adore their mamas
i want my sons to know men
who aren’t afraid of tears
i want my sons to know
men who respect their fathers
i want my sons to know men
who use fists in self-defense only
i want my sons to know
men who value and dignify men
men who work hard, can’t
spell quit, understand no
i want my sons to know
men who apologize
i want my sons to know men
who have relations with The Divine
men who question everything
men who know humility
i want my sons to know
men who read books
i want my sons to know men
who laugh at themselves
i want my sons to know
men who see possibility
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Post  Pat Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:04 pm

Role Modeling
 
(Inspired by a poem by Quraysh Ali Lansana)
 
i want my sons to respect men who
tear up at sad movies
 
i want my sons to respect men who
say “no” as well as “yes”
 
i want my sons to respect men who
smile and stroke dogs
 
i want my sons to respect men who
follow boundaries
 
i want my sons to respect men who
admit, “I don’t know”
 
i want my sons to respect men who
ask for forgiveness
 
i want my sons to respect men who
say thoughts and name feelings
 
i want my sons to respect men who
listen to old storytellers
 
i want my sons to respect men who
recognize needs and offer help
 
i want my sons to respect men who
show kindness to mothers
 
i want my sons to respect men who
know God has the better plan


Last edited by Pat on Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:41 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : left out a word)
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Post  tsukany Tue Mar 02, 2021 9:03 am

Pat

There is a line or two in the model poem that breaks the couplet format.  I wonder if you can benefit from that detail in your poem.

You have chosen to capitalize "I" in the quote inside the poem.

I like your epigraph now.  You can write "after" rather than inspired.  I didn't finish the article:  https://www.vulture.com/2018/12/poetry-twitter-debates-whether-after-poems-are-plagiarism.html

Todd

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